E scribed by Toni Marin
Sixty years close to nature have given him the knowledge to understand who we are, what we should be and what we have to do in the future to be. The soul of this humble man (he lives with the job), honest, committed to the limit, farmer, poet, philosopher, intellectual dazzles masses, revolutionary and certainly wiser.
With his books and his words make us think about our way of life and shows us the way and how to reach him. His revolutionary method of natural farming, his invention of "Nendo dango" (balls of clay in Japanese) to turn deserts into forests, books, everything he says and his philosophy of life no doubt make a great character.
His philosophy of life. Have you been happy?.
If I had not heeded my philosophy would be dead for years. Only one thing exists: it is all one. I also discovered that there is nothing in this world, this is the idea that I followed. I tried to enter increasingly on the details of the depths of nowhere. The only big idea I had for 25 years is that everything is the same.
his thought is generally to the NADA, MU, DO NOTHING. According to this thought, even education is useless. Knowledge in itself is something that separates things Fukuoca says "if you use this idea to separate the red from black, you've learned to separate the red from black, but nothing on the red or black."
How is it that a person of his years has this vitality?
whole secret is that I do not care at all about my health. Perhaps the fact that 60 years ago I decided to get stupid and do stupid things.
Do you think your philosophy transcends?
(smiles, laughs) Too token, I feel it that way, I am a very simple, very normal. My great find was the discovery that I'm stupid. Therefore I do not feel offended when someone says something weird about me, but I do not feel great when I'm flattered. I think I have no talent for an organization. On the other hand I have never seen an organization working well, need money and infrastructure to operate. Is only necessary to green seeds and clay.
What do you think of the Mediterranean landscape, from Greece, Italy and Spain (Mallorca)?
Even compared with those African landscapes are deserted rocky landscape that will be very difficult to rejuvenate. The vegetables seem to lack the delicate flavor, I think that this delicate flavor that's missing is as if nature was very simple and nutrients are also very simple. It seems that this happens to all of nature. A nature lacks vitality, and this lack of vitality is transmitted to the food and through food s people. I do not see varieties in the fields.
What do you think this landscape filled with olive trees?
I think it's the tree that can hold more in this climate. An ideal tree for desert. This is a desert. You may think this (What we see from here) is nature. here in about 10 mts. there are only five different types of fruit. With 30 types of fruit and each have 5 to 6 varieties could tenes 150 types of fruit. 2,000 years ago, felled trees to make boats. Began the erosion and desert encroachment. Came the desert in Spain. Modern agriculture and erosion causes this process to continue. Gone is the culture and use of forest. World hunger, social and ethnic violence. These things happen because it has accelerated the destruction of nature, if you lose 3% more of nature, the world will be destroyed. Has opened the book (in his hands a book Mallorca houses or Mediterranean, pick up talayots) indicates that this is what the world can be. Sacrificing nature for the development of civilization. Civilization and culture are on the decline and end in this desert of rock and earth. This site should be a forest with trees 100 meters. now we only water from the rocks and this is our opportunity íltima.
How to solve hunger?
The basic error is when the man thinks it is he who produces the food. So using chemicals. Things that are made to control water, dams, dikes, are a mistake. Stop the flow of the river, dirty water. The water flow with the stones is much better, the water is purified .. The man thinks that the problem is solved by dams, but does nothing to solve the water shortage, water is produced by the number of leaves in the soil. This site is deserted not because of lack of water, but due to lack of vegetation. In Spain, Egypt, Libya, draw water from the depths of the earth and make it worse, trying to raise the water from the bottom of the earth. Lichens and leaves Destroying worsened the possibility of obtaining water. We took the sea water to produce wealth. With this approach believe that they are controlling the water. The work that this process involves actually destroys nature. The man burns wood, coal, uranium, man believes that is creating more and more energy, but is doing the opposite. The energy is useless.
What about hybrid seed?
No. I do not use hybrids, I tried to explain for 40 years. The Japanese do not understand because they understand only part of the problem, not the whole. When I talk about everything becomes larger. When I talk about something concrete becomes small. 60 years looking for a good solution, a good way, I have not found. I've become a bit pessimistic, I now try to explain my thoughts in poetry. If you add planting seeds and fertilizer from the point of view may be right. Viewed from all the parties to fertilizer can be a mistake. You could say that today the human race for those who believe in science it has become a religion. I arrived 60 years ago the concept of not doing. The only word in my head has been MU. All things that have value not really there. Human knowledge has no value, no value the separation of colors, something that exists, that does not exist.
How do you imagine a children's book?
The only hope for this situation are the children and perhaps the only survivors. The problem is the teachers, because they can create misunderstandings in children. In a talk with students at the Univ of Kyoto, a two-hour discussion, it became one of 8 h. The main topic of conversation was that we believe the middle school teacher is less than a university. This is a mistake and I took 20 h. explain this and why humans are more stupid than dogs. The man believes he has the ability to learn to know, that's not true. Human beings have two eyes, two eyes dogs, we tend to think we see the same things. Dogs and cats see a thing through the eyes and do not discriminate between whether good or bad, man and woman. Cats do not see, is characteristic of humans. The man believes he has managed to catch the blue. Man sees the mountains, valley and sees each one separately. He thinks he knows each one separately. Cats and dogs are these, but not separate. The human being has been divided into 4 parts of nature, dogs see them as a unit. The man believes he knows the nature, all you have done is divide. The man has cut into 4 parts of nature, think that really knows, but it is not true. Dogs and cats know the true nature, men divided parties. It is as if you have a glass and broke it into 4 pieces. The man grabs a piece and think it is all well and think they are smarter than dogs and cats they see the whole. Think you know a point, line, actually does not know the point or line. There are some words of Socrates: I only know that I know nothing. Human beings do not even know themselves, the only thing we know is that humans are different from dogs and cats, and tend to think they know everything.
What do you think is the reason that only study what point?
The problem is solved by looking at everything. The reason the problem is that we use scientific knowledge and this is the problem.
How can we stop seeing things from a scientific standpoint?
When the man away from nature can not feel the heart of nature. When we think in recovering the nature of scientific way that is impossible. The reason why we have destroyed nature is because what we do by nature what we do in our own interest.
What about scientists?
only think about making money. Using the bottom of a mine at 3,000 meters. Fukuba Institute scientists are investigating the studies on superconducting antimatter. In the pool accelerate particles and observe how they behave.
Where do we take these experiments? Why look for things we already know they exist? Why look for things we already know that do not exist? Do these studies can have any value?
progress can not call what they do not know how to stop. Could achieve results that a force greater than the atomic bomb. If we can overcome these experiments would have money to save two or three times Africa. The investigation of antimatter could become the most dangerous thing that has ever existed. It is so dangerous because it is just unnatural. Today you can create larger rats than cats. Can you imagine a cat chasing a mouse.
Is beautiful or monstrous?
That time is approaching. The mountain in the river and herbs in the tree are broken here There is no god or Buddha. Humans are leaving nature in pieces.
When time is left to humans if it does not react?
TV in Japan has turned to scientists around the world to discuss the issue and what they have said is that they are 10 years of life. I give him about 25-30 years. Things have reached a limit. In all matters of the nature we are at a critical point. I think if we lose 3% of vegetation humanity will be endangered. If we lose that 3% will lose the joy of life.
Why lose the joy of life?
in Japan when the cherry blossoms gay people go to camp, to see the cherry blossom, sits under trees and make merry. They are happy. Drinking sake and watching the flowers. When flowering plants produce oxygen and this results in clean air. If there is plenty of fresh air we get excited and drink sake. If we lose 3% of nature is like to lose air and lose the feeling of dancing and drinking sake and people are cold. I think the best way to recover happiness is to throw balls of clay. I'm saying that tiréis books and let think. You can write whatever you want for this interview but in the last paragraph should read "This interview is worthless." We have to plant clay pellets quickly because no time. It depends on you, that this is a starting point for the reforestation of the planet or to stay alone in this island green. Do not let this island to become the ultimate paradise. Here a paradise to show the rest of the world with a truly reforestation.
Does "Nendo dango" is an experiment?
I can not say it's an invention, is an imitation of nature. When we throw Nendo dango, planted as God. Nendo Dango When we have to feel that we are God. When we do Nendo Dango putting soul in the ball of clay. What kind of seeds we sow and what not? Is no longer enter or not enter non-native species, it is "survival." I have a plan to make a Green Olympics, a reforestation campaign in the Mediterranean. Spain, mostly suffering from a serious problem of desertification
How can we reach people's consciousness about the problem that nature is dying?
You have to Invent the words, I am unable to convey this idea in a nutshell. Here the soil has little water, so you have to dance and drumming to attract water.
What is your latest project? What is it you are doing lately?
In Greece, with a group, we are carrying out a project of greening a large desert area of \u200b\u200b10,000 hectares with the help of 500 volunteers and spreading everywhere balls of clay. We used 70 tons of clay and 12 tons of seed cotton 5 tons and 3 tons of newsprint. Everyone has worked, so you do not need money, no organization. I told the young: you have to plant the ball with the soul to grow better. When you sow "Nendo Flowers" are like God.
